Outcast Goes to Edinburgh! Dan Tiernan & Compagnia Bellanda

00:00:00: on today's episode.

00:00:03: You know, you've got some of the best comedians ever in the world are there.

00:00:23: Some people at your level who have an amazing run and you're their

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00:00:28: Hello and welcome to Outcast World.

00:00:30: it's Graham.

00:00:31: I am in sunny Scotland.

00:00:33: Actually that is stretching truth slightly.

00:00:38: It a lot less sunny than England.

00:00:41: It says

00:00:42: weird.

00:00:42: in Scotland at the moment The grass is green.

00:00:46: The grass in England has been non-existent for three months, it's actually really refreshing.

00:00:49: I've been on the phone to people kind of like reverse showing off you know and say oh that looks so cold as here!

00:00:57: And then they're impressed at what they said there are.

00:01:00: Anyway i'm in Scotland getting ready for the Edinburgh Fringe... ...and over the next few weeks on this show we'll be bringing some my favourite moments from the fringes over last two years with some of the hottest new people who will be this year's fringe as well.

00:01:14: Some fascinating new people and some great chats with some comedians, artists all to come on Outcast World here from Edinburgh.

00:01:22: I'm going be doing a number of special episodes as well so excited to get the news season about Outcast world moving As we come back for our summer holidays.

00:01:34: live from Scotland Labour might say,

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00:01:51: And culture... What do you want from me?

00:01:53: We get together

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00:02:00: This Is Outcast

00:02:02: World.

00:02:05: Today was something really different.

00:02:08: Partially in Italian but don't

00:02:09: worry what.

00:02:09: he provides

00:02:11: Subtitles, what's the title called when someone reads from that loud?

00:02:15: Translation.

00:02:16: That's it.

00:02:17: and Campania Belanda are an independent Italian dance company From Friuli Venizia Giulia right up in.

00:02:26: I think i've said that really badly wrong.

00:02:28: What am I write up in Italy far northeastern corner close to The Slovenian border.

00:02:34: They were founded by creative partners Giovanni and Claudia And what really interested me about them is where this all began.

00:02:41: Giovanni didn't come through ballet school or a conservatoire, his background was in breaking and hip-hop culture... breaking means breakdancing I think?

00:02:51: And they've taken that foundation and pushed it into contemporary dance and performance and some of the things behind it are really interesting.

00:03:00: to see some of these inspirations behind their new work as well.

00:03:04: even The Company's name is rooted.

00:03:07: from Belanda comes expression Biele ande evoking belonging, tradition and cultural heritage.

00:03:14: And they brought a really intriguing show to the Edinburgh Fringe as well called right again this is in Italian forgive I forget it wrong Il canto dell'assio... hang on let's do that again!

00:03:24: It's called il canto del assiolo The Song of the Scops Owl.

00:03:29: now the scops owl.

00:03:30: there's a tiny bird found In the italian cast That you'll see almost but You never actually See apparently hardly ever.

00:03:37: Instead, you know it's there because of its core.

00:03:39: It's a single note repeated through the summer night never really resolving and that guys is a metaphor for whole show.

00:03:48: relationships intimacy in the feeling of something continually returning without ever quite being resolved will be in them.

00:03:55: situations ships over forty five minutes.

00:03:59: they explained all to me.

00:04:00: don't worry we're gonna sit with four forty-five minutes.

00:04:02: I've cut it down for you.

00:04:03: but then they told me all about this extraordinary combination of breaking and contemporary dance to explore desire, tenderness control dependency and rupture between two people.

00:04:13: So ahead of their fringe performance i wanted to meet them.

00:04:18: by the way also coming up on the show today should assault us.

00:04:20: at start is The Brilliant Dan Tianan as well.

00:04:24: in a conversation that i had with him uh few years ago um before it became really, really big he's really blown up on social media since.

00:04:35: so that is coming up.

00:04:36: Dan Tienen.

00:04:36: maybe i should have gone top with dan tienen from our archives coming up in a bit but ahead of their fringe performance I wanted to meet compagnia bilanda and find out how you get from breaking in a small corner of northeastern Italy to creating a show like this and bringing it all the way

00:04:57: Outcast world.

00:04:58: So this is your first

00:05:00: ever

00:05:01: Edinburgh Fringe, isn't it?

00:05:03: How are you feeling about it?

00:05:07: Under pressure and at the same time we have a little bit of an anxious... We're little bit anxious.

00:05:16: Yes It's going to be interesting!

00:05:21: We just coming back home from three weeks performing every day but just a shorter piece, so twenty minutes touring through Spain.

00:05:33: So something similar but not completely...

00:05:40: So let's go back to the start.

00:05:43: Giovanni you didn't come from ballet school

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00:05:47: formal training.

00:05:49: do want tell us how your journey started?

00:05:51: Giovanni we speak Italian.

00:05:53: I will translate.

00:05:54: I started with breakdance,

00:05:55: so seeing the guys dancing on the street and wanting to imitate and reproduce

00:06:08: what they were doing.

00:06:25: Was watching.

00:06:34: So just watch and learn.

00:06:36: yeah, um so your company name.

00:06:39: tell us the story about that

00:06:40: And

00:06:41: The reason you built your identity

00:06:43: around

00:07:06: it.

00:07:12: He

00:07:14: says that we have a language, recognize it as a language here in our region which is Friulano.

00:07:25: There is a way to say that you have style in moving.

00:07:30: You've got good ways of moving, which are Biele ande two words And he just put them together in Belanda.

00:07:40: It's nice for him to move so it could fit easily For the dancing field.

00:07:49: He decided to add some tradition something from this specific region into the name.

00:08:01: Where you are

00:08:02: from is

00:08:03: really important to you, isn't it?

00:08:06: How much inspiration did you take your regional identity and put in your work?

00:08:19: It's because of our Let me say loneliness because it's the last region before the next nation, which is Slovenia.

00:08:34: And so we live on the border and will leave very far from the center of the nation... ...and there are a lot of influences from this living on-the-border.

00:08:48: From the beginning Giovanni told that when he started to dance everything All the videos, like VHS recorded arrived very late.

00:09:01: So everything was in delay with respect to what's happening... ...in reality.

00:09:08: and so he started soon saying if I want be on time.. ..I need find my own signature or version of everything because If i wait for material coming from outside I will always be on delay.

00:09:25: So there is a little bit of tradition, but also and need to stay on time because of the geographical situation where we live.

00:09:42: so um The show is named after the scops.

00:09:46: owl.

00:09:47: paint that picture for me.

00:09:49: you're standing in the Italian cast on a summer night.

00:09:54: What do you hear and why did that sound become your show?

00:10:38: He

00:10:53: says that the sound that is in the title, because... In this region there's a bird which travels from Africa to Europe.

00:11:11: And in Italy it stops here and so he wanted concrete to something more emotional.

00:11:25: And so in our tradition this sound is an omen of changing because the bird isn't visible, it's very little but he makes sounds and you can hear you can listen it very far from the bird.

00:11:55: And so during the night, during summer and spring nights he starts to sing all night long looking for a tartaner... ...and also telling that change is coming.

00:12:12: The changes in Summer or Spring?

00:12:16: Is this message?

00:12:17: the idea of changing comes?

00:12:21: behind the piece.

00:12:52: He

00:13:00: says yes, it's about changing in relationships.

00:13:07: In couple of relationships where when one or the two is listening that something part of the relation, but it's not something you can see.

00:13:21: But you can feel somehow and or maybe you cannot You can understand that Something is Not anymore The same but you Cannot Understand what actually Is not the Same Anymore.

00:13:34: so there's something in this some Of the message And behind This to do with the Roles People Playing Relationships

00:13:41: and

00:13:43: Them Changing?

00:13:46: Absolutely, yes.

00:13:49: It really fascinates me.

00:13:50: your use of almost sound design incorporated into you live dance music performance

00:14:01: The microphones

00:14:02: picking up your breath Your footsteps and feeding it back Into the performance.

00:14:09: I was reading about it.

00:14:10: It fascinated me.

00:14:10: tell me about that

00:14:11: this one a demigrophony It's

00:14:16: something that was born a bit years ago, this thing of using microphones for us and to use the space in which we perform as harmonics.

00:14:27: so you can be always different because every space is different.

00:14:32: Every theater is different, each place is different.

00:14:34: So it will sound always different.

00:14:37: And I really like how these things make me think there are only links at the moment.

00:14:47: He says that from one side it's a research started almost ten years ago about using microphones, catching the sound and using the environment in the venue itself as So every performance in different place comes out with a different sound.

00:15:48: He

00:16:03: says that also is about trying to use like a close-up lens on the situation in the center of everything.

00:16:16: Everything comes from this room, four or five meters space at the centre and everything comes from that.

00:16:29: so words amplified by the microphones hit to the floor and they themselves create the rhythm of this situation.

00:16:44: So it's a very, um... Very quick answer coming from microphone itself into our body going on like that in order to have claustrophobic feeling To let audience come closer as much possible

00:17:07: You use spoken language in the piece, but then you break it down until it stops really kind of meaning anything and becomes rhythm.

00:17:19: Why do you do that to the words?

00:17:22: Even if maybe

00:17:26: the English language is not the English one, it still emphatizes and amplifies our emotional situations.

00:17:48: If someone cries even though he doesn't speak my language I recognize him!

00:17:54: If somebody has a nervous or angry accent even when they don't speak mine now understand that.

00:18:12: if anyone is kind-educated even without understanding what he says to me I can feel because of his tone.

00:18:27: He says that we wanted to put one more channel of language, which is not just language but also voice tone, so even if maybe it's not completely understandable what we are talking about because Italian and not English but there is the intention and also the tone of our voice that we think can could add something more some more message into.

00:19:04: Also, he says sometimes the body creates a question and the voice reply.

00:19:14: And some times it's the opposite because we will talk during that movement.

00:19:22: It is not just speech.

00:19:25: There are lots of breathes A different kind of rhythm due to this movement.

00:19:34: So let us try.

00:19:36: We think it can work even better as a global message or global feeling that we want to share with the audience.

00:19:47: A lot

00:19:48: of listeners too, this show in particular have built relationships without a rule book?

00:19:54: Does their shows speak to people whose relationship

00:19:56: don't

00:19:57: fit into usual boxes?

00:19:59: Absolutely!

00:20:05: relationships between two people, that's it whoever and probably also friendship.

00:20:13: And also whatever kind of relationship we think... We live through relationships made by two people because its always me myself and someone else and tenderness, leading or letting lead someone.

00:20:44: Of course we are male and female so the surface is easy to be understood as a love relationship between man & woman.

00:21:00: it's just about relationships with two people.

00:21:03: Right, thank you.

00:21:04: I'm really looking

00:21:05: forward to catching the show

00:21:06: so i look forward to seeing

00:21:07: you.

00:21:07: then um do you want to tell us where we can catch the show and where people can find out more about you?

00:21:14: So!

00:21:15: We have our website.

00:21:17: uh companyabellanda.com easy...we have our Instagram account.

00:21:22: And..We will be in Edinburgh from eighteen until thirty In dance base.

00:21:31: one travels through Europe right after and in Italy as well.

00:21:38: And we used to share all the dates on our accounts, yes.

00:21:44: Right,

00:21:45: Claudia Giovanni thank you so much for joining

00:21:48: me.

00:21:49: it's been a real pleasure speaking Outcast World.

00:21:59: now.

00:22:05: Right, seeing as this is an

00:22:29: LGBTQ plus podcast and you are gay tell us how he came out?

00:22:35: We want to know we've got a no.

00:22:36: um

00:22:37: so yeah I came out like in stages.

00:22:39: i guess when I was uh at eighteen I came up to say my close friends but never my family or anything.

00:22:48: not because I thought they'd have an issue bar just couldn't be asked that there wasn't much Twenty and I started doing stand-up.

00:22:58: I think about six months in, I was like looking for angles of interesting stuff to talk about And obviously naturally...I have to talk abut being gay.

00:23:08: Then when i start doing it on stage It's like well..i've got tell my mum & dad really If im telling people in stoke who ive never met before then ive gotta tell them Once we were doing that on stage I was officially out really which is never anything i'd planned.

00:23:29: but that's just sort of how it happened.

00:23:30: and then so you did

00:23:31: for content?

00:23:31: Really?

00:23:32: or you had just kept it quiet

00:23:34: Pretty much like yeah, well what It Was Is That.

00:23:38: I found Up until that point when I got close with people I would Then I Would Sort Of Come Out To Like New Friends And Stuff But It Meant That I Had to Keep Coming Out over and Over Again Whereas When I was doing it When I started doing it on stage, then i was just out like you know that You have to watch a clip On the internet and It Was Known.

00:24:02: And Then Before I Had My Instagram Bio And Stuff.

00:24:08: So That's How It Happened.

00:24:10: Really.

00:24:11: So, I read that.

00:24:14: And now don't know if this was just used for a joke because as we've discussed some stuff is just... ...for the bants really.

00:24:19: but what's this about?

00:24:21: The Royal Marines didn't want you.

00:24:22: did you apply to be in the Royal Marines surely not?

00:24:24: No, no I didn't.

00:24:28: Oh disappointing!

00:24:31: You would

00:24:31: have done there.

00:24:32: Just thought i'll ask questions.

00:24:34: yeah A lot of it is true.

00:24:39: Yeah, that bit's definitely not true.

00:24:42: So

00:24:42: I'm talking to you now.

00:24:44: are you in your own place?

00:24:45: Now have you moved out your mom's?

00:24:47: yeah i do live on my own.

00:24:48: yes thats another lie i'm afraid.

00:24:50: yeah yeah uh yeah because i talk on stage about living at my mum's and yeah you do...I did for years though so ya know..yeah see

00:24:58: we're entitled to say it.

00:24:58: its

00:24:58: all based on truth.

00:24:59: yeah exactly!

00:25:01: You've

00:25:01: got the Edinburgh Festival show coming up in.

00:25:04: it's August isn't it?

00:25:05: that's when the Edinburgh festival is on

00:25:08: All of August, so I've got my debut show going under.

00:25:11: Basically it's like my fifth time go into the fringe but... My first time doing an hour just on my own.

00:25:16: and yeah So basically you perform every day.

00:25:19: so my run starts on the thirty-first of July then i think goes up until the twenty eighth of august And i'll perform everyday apart from the fourteenth Seven

00:25:28: days a week?

00:25:28: You're doing seven nights a week continuously for one month with one day off.

00:25:32: Yeah, yeah.

00:25:33: And I'll probably do other shows to promote that show as well.

00:25:36: so it is mental like...I'm hoping take a bit easier this year because its my debut hour but in previous years i've done hundreds of shows and a month kind of thing.

00:25:48: So it's really intense.

00:25:51: your voice goes after few days.

00:25:54: you gotta try manage.

00:25:56: But yeah, it's incredible.

00:25:57: Like if no one... If you've never been to the fringe like I cannot recommend enough.

00:26:02: It is so good?

00:26:03: Yeah

00:26:03: So good but its expensive though isn't?

00:26:05: Even more expensive on your part than being a punter innit really

00:26:10: Sure!

00:26:10: Well i mean The big thing is accommodation So that obviously some impunters have to go.

00:26:14: There are differences though.

00:26:16: through a punta Its two or three days.

00:26:18: Having to pay those prices for accommodation For whole month Is just insane.

00:26:22: Like mine this year is at one thousand four hundred for the month which is just yeah, extortionate.

00:26:28: What

00:26:28: are you staying in?

00:26:29: Because I've been before and stayed at university halls so got the cheapest.

00:26:33: uni halls where we could get a little single room with a single bed felt like it was back on my nans' day.

00:26:38: Yeah!

00:26:39: I have stayed there for four years as well.

00:26:42: So this year yes It's just our house full of comedians.

00:26:45: We should be quite nice but In previous years i absolutely slummed it.

00:26:49: Before that i have stayed Like on sofas or stuff But its not worth for your mental health, like you need your own space really.

00:26:59: So what can people expect from your show if they go and see it this year?

00:27:03: Sure so because my first hour is sort of greatest hits really just basically everything I've ever written or sort of packed into in to sort of fifty minutes.

00:27:14: we call it an hour but really its about fifty minutes.

00:27:16: yeah um.

00:27:17: and then yes some new stuff i've written as well I guess, yeah.

00:27:21: It's just the perfect introduction to me as a stand-up comedian in my perspective on The World.

00:27:29: So Yeah!

00:27:30: I write loads of... My style is like... I write jokes basically about ME so they're not one line per se because they are actually about MY LIFE.

00:27:40: So yeah it's just basically fifty minutes for me talking about myself hopefully in an entertaining manner.

00:27:47: yeah do

00:27:48: you have new stuff there then or is it just stuff that you've tried out elsewhere?

00:27:52: It's all the biggest hits like you said and nothing new.

00:27:55: Yeah well so no, so the previews... So I've got about fifteen previews left.

00:28:00: i've done eight.

00:28:00: a preview is basically where you'd do before Edinburgh or before a tour.

00:28:06: You just do like a practice in front of an audience!

00:28:09: So i've got loads of those on sale across the country And in those i'm trying our new stuff.

00:28:16: Stuff that's new now.

00:28:17: Um, but hopefully by the time I get to Edinburgh it won't be.

00:28:20: you'll have tried we will

00:28:21: see.

00:28:22: yeah in theory Is not.

00:28:23: what do then?

00:28:24: You go around.

00:28:25: is that normal to do like a tour of the country.

00:28:27: before you Get to Edinburgh try your stuff.

00:28:28: so you've got really good stuff for Edinburgh.

00:28:30: Yeah, I mean It's not really at all per se because it's a lot of light.

00:28:35: Say an open might not you might doing our they're let me do and hour at The end or maybe like I just throw one off on like in say Manchester, like it's a lot skattier than the tour or anywhere that can give me an hour of stage time with an audience.

00:28:53: That is perfect.

00:28:54: so yeah thats exactly what everyone does but its called previews at the moment because we are in June and its pre-view season.

00:29:03: So everyone who's going to Edinburgh is previewing their shows.

00:29:07: And you go on with a notepad and stuff, usually sell tickets like they're cheap... Like a

00:29:11: five or what?

00:29:12: But so as your doing your set You are writing down how it went whilst you were on stage.

00:29:19: That's some people work.

00:29:21: that isn't my way of working.

00:29:23: I voice record and then I'll listen to the voice recording afterwards.

00:29:28: And my recent process is, it will rank every new joke out of five based on a response right?

00:29:34: The idea is as i'm going through that usually hopefully start writing down new notes.

00:29:41: often when you're in that frame of mind you end up writing new jokes as well or changing them.

00:29:46: yeah basically just trying The next preview better than the last one really.

00:29:53: Yeah, so yeah a lot of writing notes for your future self like and then when Yeah, you go like that.

00:30:09: It is kind of torture.

00:30:10: don't get me wrong

00:30:12: I couldn't do it i could not do it?

00:30:14: It just seems Like it's the level of the level Of insecurity.

00:30:17: and must i mean You don't know because you're really good at but especially in they begin The Level of Insecurity That like comics Must fail Especially to Begin with.

00:30:25: Yeah, I'm still deeply insecure please don't.

00:30:29: Please

00:30:31: know that!

00:30:31: But yeah i think less so about stand-up specifically since when i started but it literally takes one bad gig in you.

00:30:40: You think you're the worst comic ever and shouldn't be doing it like, It can happen so easily.

00:30:44: I mean God was saying to We've been speaking with friends Like if you have one gig and say look there's a one-off but when If you obviously three bad gigs in a row that is enough to That

00:30:53: Can Happen though can't it?

00:30:54: Yeah

00:30:54: Absolutely

00:30:55: yeah

00:30:55: Completely can happen And particularly Edinburgh Is A Place Where You Could Be Really Insecure Because Your Working So Hard And Sometimes Sometimes you just get in a bit of bad groove and start having bad shows, particularly if your doing five or six shows per day.

00:31:12: Which isn't unheard-of in Edinburgh!

00:31:14: And you bomb five times in one day.

00:31:17: like that is...and you're IN A PLACE!

00:31:20: full of people where you're constantly comparing yourself to everyone.

00:31:24: You know, you've got some of the best comedians ever in the world are there... ...you've got someone at your level who is having an amazing run and you're there stinking gaffes out all day!

00:31:32: It's like yeah I don't know what was happening but i always have a point when Yeah, I feel like i'm getting worse.

00:31:40: What is going on?

00:31:41: Yeah what's happening?

00:31:44: Would you do mental health wise then because you've got to decompress sometimes something... You're doing five shows a day and they are all challenging even if the go really well!

00:31:51: A

00:31:57: huge thing is like having a good group of friends who are also comics in Edinburgh, you know?

00:32:03: And sometimes the wrong groups can be toxic or whatever.

00:32:06: I think it's important to have people genuinely want support each other and lift them up so that they can talk about your concerns and stuff and speak with bad gigs opportunities you missed... I don't want to sound hypocritical because a lot of these things, i dont actually put in place but i definitely should.

00:32:28: But i try to exercise like.

00:32:30: that's the one thing

00:32:33: That always helps!

00:32:35: It ALWAYS helps...but i never bloody do it.

00:32:40: So last year was quite good as we were running pretty much every day before my shows which is just so Yeah.

00:32:47: That's the best way to go into anything like that, isn't it?

00:32:49: When you've just exercised but its getting yourself in a frame of mind where ya wanna do it innit

00:32:54: really!

00:32:54: Yeah exactly and so easy to fall out off.

00:32:57: And then I think again this is what i'm really here for.

00:32:59: critical Is not drinking too much but last year was an absolute piss cannon But like... I gonna try to monitor that.

00:33:08: Try eat or write Like yeah they're the only things your can do.

00:33:13: I guess there are some thing.

00:33:14: people say You should try and get out of the festival for a day, go to Glasgow if you've got time.

00:33:23: Try not compare yourself with other people.

00:33:28: it's so much easier said than done but everyone is on their own journey.

00:33:31: I think in whole though like...I definitely struggle with my mental health however i struggled all year round So just being around comedy As much as at times it can be difficult.

00:33:44: I am just genuinely delighted to be there, like so delighted You know There's only one Edinburgh Fringe in the whole world and like Just to be able To go do The thing you love constantly all day And just Be completely around It Yeah is amazing.

00:33:58: So i think i just constantly Remind myself of that Like yeah You're out the fringe and you Love this.

00:34:04: Enjoy it.

00:34:05: Yeah enjoy it.

00:34:06: Sure there are moments and you've just got to let them happen.

00:34:13: Is it bitchy or world?

00:34:15: Oh my god!

00:34:18: I bet they're deep intelligent bitches as well, It's not like basic.

00:34:24: its fucking to the root of your soul kind of bitchy.

00:34:27: Well because

00:34:29: all industries are acting or whatever, they're all gonna be bitchy.

00:34:35: I think the main thing with stand-up is it's so personal because your professional thing is you!

00:34:42: It's YOU that's going on stage and it's YOU who are doing that.

00:34:44: You've got no team behind you...it literally is YOU.

00:34:48: So there a lot of people sort talking and you know God I'd hate to know, genuinely wouldn't just not like it.

00:34:58: Just don't

00:34:58: wanna know what people say!

00:34:59: Yeah but he can tell me

00:35:02: what they want.

00:35:03: Just dont't tell me that's the main thing

00:35:05: isn't is?

00:35:05: Please make sure it doesn't get back because then...

00:35:08: yeah

00:35:09: absolutely so that sounds really exciting.

00:35:13: if anyone listening right now wants go see with the Edinburgh Festival where are going be on?

00:35:16: how could we find out were tickets?

00:35:18: Absolutely so.

00:35:19: I'm at Monkey Barrel too for at ten p.m every day except the fourteenth and as I said, i've got loads of previews in cities all across the country before august.

00:35:30: so if you go on my instagram in mobile there's a little link tree there and that's got tickets for my edinburgh show.

00:35:36: um and tickets uh for all the previews.

00:35:39: or if you're not on instagram if you just google dancin' and edinbrough that should get you there.

00:35:44: i reckon

00:35:45: When you're there, are you going to fire up the old grinder?

00:35:47: I remember when I went to Edinburgh and fired it up.

00:35:50: It was busy!

00:35:53: Yeah yeah well it's a lot of creatives isn't it so pretty gay hope but yeah nice.

00:36:00: i mean its never really been for me in previous years.

00:36:05: Like my mate said last year, like do you not find Edinburgh's incredibly horny place?

00:36:10: That I feel

00:36:11: like!

00:36:12: Because

00:36:12: it was just people there for a month.

00:36:15: Yes!

00:36:16: Frustrated.

00:36:20: Everyone is a bit delirious and mad.

00:36:22: so yeah...I think I'll make sure its downloaded this year.

00:36:24: Yeah they have re-downloaded that old chestnut.

00:36:30: Right then, mate.

00:36:31: Well if

00:36:31: anyone

00:36:31: in Edinburgh.

00:36:32: go and see him.

00:36:32: he is amazing dancing on the comedian And If you're on Grindr in Edinburgh fire it up.

00:36:38: You might catch them there as well.

00:36:39: Mate thanks for coming on.

00:36:40: Thanks so much for having me.

00:36:41: It's been a

00:36:44: blast.